Reforging Update?

BarryBybax
BarryBybax
edited June 2013 in General Discussion
Is there a place where updates on the reforging process are available for those of us not on the reforging forums? Any posts of progress or that sort of thing?

Thank you!
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  • GamingMegaverse
    GamingMegaverse
    Posts: 2,978
    The appeal of the higher Kickstarter level of the Reforge was to "be in on it".... It is looking awesome....

    Just trying to help out.

  • twiggyleaf
    twiggyleaf
    Posts: 1,955
    I am still excited and hope everything will be very cool without too much disruption to existing campaigns. Roll on, August. (Not long now!)

    twigs

    "I met a traveller from an antique land....."

    CotM May 2016: Mysteria: set in Wolfgang Baur’s MIDGARD.

    Previous CotM Aug 2012: Shimring: High Level Multiplanar Campaign

    Inner Council Member

  • NinjaFlashX
    NinjaFlashX
    Posts: 94
    Yeah, I'm totally kicking myself now for not paying the extra $$$ to be there... can't wait much longer....are we there yet?!?!?!?

    Flash
    "Heroes Unchained":http://www.obsidianportal.com/campaigns/heroesunchained - _Where Slaves Become Legends_

    Heroes Unchained: CotM 2013

  • SkidAce
    SkidAce
    Posts: 830
    I understand the appeal and the benefit to the higher levels supporters.


    But we should get some trickle down info/updates.
  • GamingMegaverse
    GamingMegaverse
    Posts: 2,978
    Simpler, sharper, easier to use.
    Much better "out of the box".
    More consistent.
    Simply better... That is what I can tell you.

    Just trying to help out.

  • GamingMegaverse
    GamingMegaverse
    Posts: 2,978
    New video update! On their Vimeo page, "character page update":http://vimeo.com/obsidianportal

    Just trying to help out.

  • SkidAce
    SkidAce
    Posts: 830
    I like that character page.

    I have some concern about the focus on the "quick search" bar. Great, Perfect, Stupendous (tm) for things you already know exist.

    Hopefully the interface exploring and discovering the wiki portion (i.e. a new member reading up) will remain as viable as our current wiki link structures have been.
  • twiggyleaf
    twiggyleaf
    Posts: 1,955
    Actually, I liked the PC v Non PC distinction, but I guess I can just set up the PCs in a separate WIKI.
    Otherwise, looks cool!

    twigs

    "I met a traveller from an antique land....."

    CotM May 2016: Mysteria: set in Wolfgang Baur’s MIDGARD.

    Previous CotM Aug 2012: Shimring: High Level Multiplanar Campaign

    Inner Council Member

  • Kallak
    Kallak
    Posts: 1,090
    I agree twiggy, the NPC vs PC distinction needs to come back. GM only being separate or not is not a big deal, but players shouldn't have to go through the filter list to find their characters, they should be right at the top - where they belong.
    All the best,
    - Kallak
  • twiggyleaf
    twiggyleaf
    Posts: 1,955
    Thanks, Kallak. Indeed it seems you agree and give a more forceful reasoning for the PLAYER ONLY distinction to remain!

    twigs

    "I met a traveller from an antique land....."

    CotM May 2016: Mysteria: set in Wolfgang Baur’s MIDGARD.

    Previous CotM Aug 2012: Shimring: High Level Multiplanar Campaign

    Inner Council Member

  • saethone
    saethone
    Posts: 153
    I think it'd be easiest if we could set our own categories - so we can pc vs npc, dead vs alive, etc etc on our own
  • Kallak
    Kallak
    Posts: 1,090
    that would be an awesome thing to have actually.
    All the best,
    - Kallak
  • twiggyleaf
    twiggyleaf
    Posts: 1,955
    FYI:
    I brought up the same point of PC v Non PC distinction on the REFORGE site and this was the reply:

    "PCs will be prominently displayed on the campaign home page. They will also be prominently displayed on the dashboard. If a player wants to get to their PC, it will be really, really easy.
    The characters list page is meant for a larger view of the campaign characters as a whole."

    twigs

    "I met a traveller from an antique land....."

    CotM May 2016: Mysteria: set in Wolfgang Baur’s MIDGARD.

    Previous CotM Aug 2012: Shimring: High Level Multiplanar Campaign

    Inner Council Member

  • Kallak
    Kallak
    Posts: 1,090 edited July 2013
    If the above comment is in reference to an optional setup or an expansion of the sidebar box already in existence, then I'm all for it. If it's an indication that portions of everyone's campaign home page are 'set in stone', then I'm 100% against. No offense to Micah or the design team working on the reforge, but I think that would be stepping over the line a bit.. I've always seen Obsidian Portal as a toolbox for people to make their campaign into whatever they wanted - laid out the way they wanted. If the reforge is going to start forcing users to choose a template rather than giving options for making their own, I submit that things are heading in the wrong direction in terms of interface.
    Post edited by Kallak on
    All the best,
    - Kallak
  • GamingMegaverse
    GamingMegaverse
    Posts: 2,978
    They have maintained that we will still be able to use custom css, so we will be able to do that....

    Just trying to help out.

  • Keryth987
    Keryth987
    Posts: 1,018
    My real concern is how much of the existing customization, formatting, etc will be destroyed by the reforging. I happily supported the reforge, but after the Character Page Update, I'm a bit concerned. Really not looking forward to having to redo my entire site, and I hope I don;t have to


    Keelah Se'lai,
    Keryth
    "Shadows Over New York":http://www.obsidianportal.com/campaigns/shadows-over-new-york
    "Campaign of the Month - July 2013":http://blog.obsidianportal.com/shadows-over-new-york-julys-campaign-of-the-month/

  • GamingMegaverse
    GamingMegaverse
    Posts: 2,978
    For those that do not check the Kickstarter comments, this was from Micah-
    "Yes, it looks like we're probably going to miss our initial deadline. The graphic redesign has taken a lot more time than I expected. I'm hoping to give an updated ETA soon. And, just so it's clear, it will be a case of "we need a few more weeks" not "sometime in mid 2014..."
    killervp
    "A God...Rebuilt":http://www.obsidianportal.com/campaigns/a-god-rebuilt
    "OP's COTM April 2012":http://blog.obsidianportal.com/a-god-rebuilt-aprils-cotm/

    Just trying to help out.

  • GamingMegaverse
    GamingMegaverse
    Posts: 2,978 edited August 2013
    Mobile site update "here":http://vimeo.com/70636652
    killervp
    "A God...Rebuilt":http://www.obsidianportal.com/campaigns/a-god-rebuilt
    "OP's COTM April 2012":http://blog.obsidianportal.com/a-god-rebuilt-aprils-cotm/
    Post edited by GamingMegaverse on

    Just trying to help out.

  • twiggyleaf
    twiggyleaf
    Posts: 1,955
    Thanks KVP!

    "I met a traveller from an antique land....."

    CotM May 2016: Mysteria: set in Wolfgang Baur’s MIDGARD.

    Previous CotM Aug 2012: Shimring: High Level Multiplanar Campaign

    Inner Council Member

  • GamingMegaverse
    GamingMegaverse
    Posts: 2,978
    Please check out the update on when the Reforge will be done "here":http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/252020431/obsidian-portal-reforged/posts/560099

    Personally I am happy- having them take the time to make it right is much better, and getting the custom URL's at the same time is awesome!
    killervp
    "A God...Rebuilt":http://www.obsidianportal.com/campaigns/a-god-rebuilt
    "OP's COTM April 2012":http://blog.obsidianportal.com/a-god-rebuilt-aprils-cotm/

    Just trying to help out.

  • GamingMegaverse
    GamingMegaverse
    Posts: 2,978
    For those of you with access (and I am kicking myself for not spending the extra $25) any new updates? Seems that when they opened up the invite to the servers themselves they stopped the updates on the Reforge forums- or they are just catching their breath from GenCon, which is completely understandable....

    Just trying to help out.

  • GamingMegaverse
    GamingMegaverse
    Posts: 2,978
    New video up, about campaign navigation. Great stuff "here":http://vimeo.com/73390015

    Just trying to help out.

  • SkidAce
    SkidAce
    Posts: 830
    I hope you can turn off that stuff. While I applaud it, and realize that many campaigns would benefit, we don't use that calendar.

    Maybe thats just the dashboard, and when you go to the campaign you will still be able to see the nfty custom home pages and wiki fronts we created.
  • twiggyleaf
    twiggyleaf
    Posts: 1,955
    I am with you SkidAce. I like the calendar and when I am running my game I use it, but generally I never get a full response so for me it is just a good way of setting reminders and sending out a quick summary of info. Also, I think Micah's description of "HOW AWKWARD" the present system is does not take into account the simple notion of FAVOURITES. I just click once to go to my site and then click CALENDAR. It is no big deal!

    twigs

    "I met a traveller from an antique land....."

    CotM May 2016: Mysteria: set in Wolfgang Baur’s MIDGARD.

    Previous CotM Aug 2012: Shimring: High Level Multiplanar Campaign

    Inner Council Member

  • Torg_Smith
    Torg_Smith
    Posts: 10
    I am sure you can still use a link to your campaign directly and bypass that page if you want.

    I wonder if the home page to each campaign has that quick view setup?
  • SkidAce
    SkidAce
    Posts: 830
    Torg_Smith, thats the part that I am hoping is not the case. I dont want a dashboard as the front end of my campaigns. Central area like my profile page? I can deal with that, although I always skip that via favorites like twiggyleaf does.
  • Keryth987
    Keryth987
    Posts: 1,018
    I hate to say it, but the more of the Reforging I see, the less I like. I want more capabilities, yes, but I don;t want my sites broken because they've totally redone the entire site, either.

    Keelah Se'lai,
    Keryth
    "Shadows Over New York":http://www.obsidianportal.com/campaigns/shadows-over-new-york
    "Campaign of the Month - July 2013":http://blog.obsidianportal.com/shadows-over-new-york-julys-campaign-of-the-month/

  • Kallak
    Kallak
    Posts: 1,090
    From the bits that have been seen and/or heard thus far, I'm still on the fence about it. I like the back end optimization, GM dashboard, filtering search capability, and having phone/tablet users not seeing something completely different than what I designed on my desktop. Front end design is where I have issues, as it seems to be going away from what it should be. The idea that parts of your campaign page are no longer yours to design and instead are hard-coded is a *huge* no no. It's also irritating that after all this time and reforging and whatnot, we STILL cannot just have customizable tabs as an option. Some people want to organize their site differently than the default. They want a "campaign calendar" tab instead of (or in addition to) a "calendar" tab, or they want to delete (and not just display:none) tabs they aren't using, or change the order of the tabs, or god knows what else. And don't even get me started on the "natural" editing... I will smack a bitch if this becomes the sole method for editing campaigns.

    Long story short, I think the reforge is making the site better and faster on the back end, but it's pigeonholing the front end interface instead of giving people more options and more power when creating their campaigns.
    All the best,
    - Kallak
  • GamingMegaverse
    GamingMegaverse
    Posts: 2,978
    There is the public side, and the private side. What you saw in the video is the private side.
    I think it is a huge improvement! I don't use certain parts (we don't use the forums, for example) but I am excited about the general idea.
    As far as the not being able to customize, Micah has stated that we will be able to customize what the public sees using css as we do now- I agree with Kallak that easily customizable tabs would be awesome, but I don't think that everything will break as Keryth is worried about.
    I will also state that this is my impression, and I hope that one of the guys will address this- I am just going by what has been said, not inside info!
    My 2 cents...

    Just trying to help out.

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