Music files

Black_Vulmea
Black_Vulmea
edited August 2011 in General Discussion
I'm thinking about adding music to my front page, but first I need to find a hosting site, preferably without charge. Any suggestions?

Mike aka Black Vulmea
"_Le Ballet de l'Acier_":http://www.obsidianportal.com/campaigns/le-ballet-de-l-acier - swashbuckling adventures in the age of the Three Musketeers and Captain Alatriste
Featured Campaign of the Month - August 2011
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  • Baalshamon
    Baalshamon
    Posts: 585
    yeah me too. any help will be appreciated.
  • DreadGazebo
    DreadGazebo
    Posts: 218
    Have you guys considered Amazon Cloud Player (aka Amazon MP3) or if you're lucky enough to get into the Google Music beta, both are excellent services. I use both to store music for my games and play directly from my smart phone hooked up to external speakers during play sessions. If I'm totally wrong on what you're looking for here let me know, I may have some other suggestions.
  • Wildhunt78
    Wildhunt78
    Posts: 17
    I thought I would bring this back up instead of doing a new post. Has there been any headway or new knowledge on how to embed a music file. Can you run Google Player on the page instead of the making a link that goes to another page? I was hoping to put up theme music for my various NPCs.
  • gaaran
    gaaran
    Posts: 740 edited December 2011
    The best that I've been able to think of is adding a link to an external site that pops under the current page, so they can click it and have the music player pop up, and not break the browsing experience. However, that still requires an active click.

    Edit: Also, SoundCloud is one such service, although I haven't used them for anything but listening, so I'm not sure how good it would work for this purpose.
    Post edited by gaaran on
  • Wildhunt78
    Wildhunt78
    Posts: 17
    I have actually managed to get it to work thanks to a player of mine. I had been trying to use the HTML Google Player code without success but this code works.

    p(oembed). "Legacy":http://grooveshark.com/s/The+Spirit+Of+Excalibur/gI2e8?src=5

    A site called Grooveshark hosts thousands of searchable music and you can link from the site and it creates it's own player on the page. It does not play automatically, but that is what I wanted, a player you can can click yourself.

    So just use

    p(oembed). "Song Name":song on grooveshark you want to link to.

    Thank you for your feedback too gaaran and hopefully this can help people. The only thing I gave not worked out how to place the player in the center of the page.

    If you want to see what it looks like, here is my webpage: http://www.obsidianportal.com/campaign/adelaide-jade-regent/wikis/ameiko-kaijitsu
  • GamingMegaverse
    GamingMegaverse
    Posts: 2,968 edited December 2011
    That is really cool, and a nice site as well. I would have linked to your "main page":http://www.obsidianportal.com/campaigns/adelaide-jade-regent
    Thanks again for this, will definitely be stealing!!
    Here is code to center
    '
    "Legacy":http://grooveshark.com/s/The+Spirit+Of+Excalibur/gI2e8?src=5

    '
    Just drop the single quotes at the beginning and end.
    killervp
    "A God...Rebuilt":http://www.obsidianportal.com/campaigns/a-god-rebuilt
    Duskreign's "COTM for November 2011":http://www.obsidianportal.com/campaigns/wyrmshadow/wiki_pages/112011
    Post edited by GamingMegaverse on

    Just trying to help out.

  • RaseCidraen
    RaseCidraen
    Posts: 890
    AHHHH! This is the worst thing ever! Now I have to go and make music edits to EVERYTHING! JEEZ! Thanks a bunch Wildhunt! Now Gaaran is going to hate me as my campaign restart is going to be delayed by ANOTHER block of time because of this awesomeness you just came up with!
  • TheMazeController
    TheMazeController
    Posts: 115
    um is there an error somewhere there cause I just tried to center my music player and it sure didnt work on my 1st page of the adventure log. I am not smart enough to know what the error is tho. Or if it's on my end lol.

    Still it doesn't look bad left justified where it is for now so I am leaving it up till I figure out what went wrong ... and now gosh darnit I gotta start figuring out what tracks I am going to use for each page.

    It's fun being the nub because all you awesome types have figured out so much it should make it somewhat easier to be in your league.
  • GamingMegaverse
    GamingMegaverse
    Posts: 2,968
    It is working for me... see "here":http://www.obsidianportal.com/campaign/a-god-rebuilt/wikis/malkin-falimede
    Same code as centering your video, just different link.
    killervp
    "A God...Rebuilt":http://www.obsidianportal.com/campaigns/a-god-rebuilt
    Duskreign's "COTM for November 2011":http://www.obsidianportal.com/campaigns/wyrmshadow/wiki_pages/112011

    Just trying to help out.

  • TheMazeController
    TheMazeController
    Posts: 115
    Once you told me its the same div tags I used for the video I figured it out. Thank you Doku and so forth.

    I was being a Donkyrydr...
  • Wildhunt78
    Wildhunt78
    Posts: 17
    Don't feel bad, I hadn't worked out the centering bit either, even with the codes. I will give it another go now with killervp's example to go by. Thanks killer and everyone else.
  • TheMazeController
    TheMazeController
    Posts: 115 edited December 2011
    email me and I will send you what I used in a txt file.

    Makes it pretty easy

    Should I start a separate thread where we can talk about the "appropriate" or "best" use of music on an op site? Or just use this thread to not clutter the forums.
    Post edited by TheMazeController on
  • Black_Vulmea
    Black_Vulmea
    Posts: 277
    bq. Should I start a separate thread where we can talk about the "appropriate" or "best" use of music on an op site? Or just use this thread to not clutter the forums.

    I changed the thread topic name to something more generic, if you want to keep the discussion going in this thread.

    Mike aka Black Vulmea
    "_Le Ballet de l'Acier_":http://www.obsidianportal.com/campaigns/le-ballet-de-l-acier - swashbuckling adventures in the age of the Three Musketeers and Captain Alatriste
    Featured Campaign of the Month - August 2011
  • TheMazeController
    TheMazeController
    Posts: 115
    Fair enough...

    So I realize this will be taste and situation dependent but I was thinking about how to best incorporate music into my scheme. Then I realized that others may have useful input. I am of the opinion that many pages probably shouldn't receive any music - the only ones I would probably place them on is the adventure logs (which I have done) then as themes for PCs NPCs and Factions perhaps.

    I intend to let my Players choose their PC themes with the caveat it must be something that fits with the rest of the site.

    How do you guys plan to use music?
  • Wildhunt78
    Wildhunt78
    Posts: 17
    My original idea was similar to yours. Mine is a bit cluttered at the moment because once I worked out how to do it, I threw music up everywhere.

    I am running an Adventure Path, a 6 part series and plan to have a piece of music for each chapter on my front page. As the 6 parts are in wildly differing areas, I want to be able to capture the essence of the region they are in for that chapter.

    I also want a single piece of music for each of the major NPCs. The plan is, when the characters are interacting with that NPC in an important section, I have their theme running so that (hopefully) it will get to a point where I can play the music and they automatically associate it with that person and know something major is going to happen in relation to that person.

    I admit, I currently have 1 or 2 joke pieces of music up on the NPCs until I could finally find something more appropriate and I am hoping the players will find something for themselves. If they want to use a modern song, I would ask that it is an instrumental version. For the NPC elf ranger, Shalelu, a withdrawn and lonely person, I have an instrumental version of Desperado by The Eagles. It is not fantasy but the instrumental keeps it from breaking the immersion too much.
  • ednoria
    ednoria
    Posts: 17
    Wow! This is really awesome! Now I have to go hunting for music!
  • gaaran
    gaaran
    Posts: 740
    Anyone else having an issue getting the link to be an embedded player, instead of just a hyperlink? If so, anyone find any work arounds?
  • TheMazeController
    TheMazeController
    Posts: 115 edited December 2011
    Not I sorry I wouldnt know enough to guide your efforts however.

    In the mean time here is my humble suggestion as self designated idea man.

    Pandora - if you're stuck thinking of what kind of music would work for a section of your site pick a song that you know would work thematically but you don't want to use perhaps. Punch it into pandora.com and you will get a ton of suggestions for similar music.

    Here is my suggestion for Shalelu - http://grooveshark.com/#/s/Fade+Into+You/4ktZgf?src=5 pretty sad and lonley - altho 5 string seranade by mazzy star is also sad and lonley let me know if you'd prefer that. It's track 5 located at http://www.mazzystar.nu/web/so-tonight-that-i-might-see.html.
    Post edited by TheMazeController on
  • Wildhunt78
    Wildhunt78
    Posts: 17
    Not sure gaaran? When you first open the page with the link, it shows as a hyperlink and needs a few moments to load. It will not show up as a player in Preview either as far as I can tell.

    Also, what are you viewing it on? When I opened the pages via my iPad or Android device, it showed up only as a hyperlink.

    Thanks for the music suggestion TheMazeController, I will give that a look when I get home.
  • GamingMegaverse
    GamingMegaverse
    Posts: 2,968
    Gaaran- What issue are you having exactly. Happy to send the code in a pm if you need, go ahead and hit me.
    killervp
    "A God...Rebuilt":http://www.obsidianportal.com/campaigns/a-god-rebuilt
    Duskreign's "COTM for November 2011":http://www.obsidianportal.com/campaigns/wyrmshadow/wiki_pages/112011

    Just trying to help out.

  • gaaran
    gaaran
    Posts: 740
    I figured it out, I was copying the code exactly as given and it wasn't working... but only in the preview window. I forgot that the embeds don't appear in the preview, so now it works just fine.

    "Check It":http://www.obsidianportal.com/campaign/the-dark-queen-of-the-west/wikis/main-page
  • TheMazeController
    TheMazeController
    Posts: 115
    I'm jealous as usual. I wish I could play in that campaign. I know it would be cool - us creative types should have a monthly OP creatives online game using Maptools and skype. I am NOT volunteering to run it tho! I want to play for once cause I know that that game would be AWESOME.

    At least that's what the self appointed wildcard / idea man says!





    *Yes I am adding wildcard to my list of self appointed titles.
  • TheMazeController
    TheMazeController
    Posts: 115 edited December 2011
    Dammit had a minor victory but also a defeat.

    I dont know if you noticed or not wildhunt but I mislabled the Mazzy Star track when I uploaded it. Album info should be "So tonight that I might see" I wrote "So THAT tonight that I might see" and it's been bugging me ever since.

    So this morning when I woke up I had an epiphany. I realized I knew the perfect saddest song of all time and rushed to upload it for you...

    Since I rushed I made another damn error...

    http://grooveshark.com/#/s/Adagio+Fo+Strings/4kvyxr?src=5

    It say Adagio "fo strings" instead of "FOR strings". Take comfort in the fact that I wrestled with stupid grooveshark for like an hour trying ro reload or edit the damn thing. No joy gridley - so my suggestion is either (A) - Ignore it and use it and have fun. or (B) - Re-upload it yourself and have a good copy for your portal. I would go with B myself.

    For help doing that email me at the.maze.controller @ gmail dot com

    In the mean time tonight I am replaying some Homeworld. (See pic link - its my games that are quick launch worthy minus Steam titles- they get their own folder.) Great game - my future players can suffer from me not working on my site for a night. ungrateful Bastiges that they are. Besides I am waiting on a few friendly assists before I do too much more to the pages because I want to get my format laid out properly.

    http://tinyurl.com/7jbnczm
    Post edited by TheMazeController on
  • DarkMagus
    DarkMagus
    Posts: 425
    Is there anyway to utilize this embedded player with a playlist not just a single song? I just tried and it got all funky on me. I think this would be a great addition to Gaming Music's Playlist Helper feature.
  • WolfLord
    WolfLord
    Posts: 276
    yeah im very interested in this thread could be a really awesome addition to any campaign.
  • Wildhunt78
    Wildhunt78
    Posts: 17 edited December 2011
    Ok, I just had a quick play in regards to a music list. If you build a playlist on Grooveshark and copy it's URL you get a player but it is a little bulkier.

    See here: http://www.obsidianportal.com/campaign/adelaide-jade-regent/wikis/test-page

    I randomly threw songs on there (honestly) and that's what you get. Hopefully someone smarter or savvier will work out a streamlined version otherwise maybe set the player to the side of the webpage and wrap text or art around it.
    Post edited by Wildhunt78 on
  • DarkMagus
    DarkMagus
    Posts: 425
    Thanks wildhunt.

    I figured out what I was doing wrong. I was using the url I had in place before which was formatted like this: http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/playlist/Gm+Town+village/51149032?src=5

    But that didn't work, however this one does: http://grooveshark.com/#/playlist/GM+Town+Village/51149032

    DarkMagus
  • TheMazeController
    TheMazeController
    Posts: 115
    Am I the only one experiencing weird random glitches when I try to embed music files via grooveshark? It is quite annoying. I am pretty sure I am doing things corrects especially as I have had multiple successes with embedded files I have worked on but every now and then I just get a weird no functioning embed. Anyone have a clue as to why that might be?
  • nico144
    nico144
    Posts: 7
    i know this topic is a year old but it still helped me out. =) in case another person comes along looking for help like i did, here's the simple code i used to center the embedded music:

    p(center oembed). "Main Theme":http://GROOVESHARK_URL

    easy peasy! thanks all!
  • ZombieDragonPrincess
    ZombieDragonPrincess
    Posts: 9
    The code isn't working for me. Everytime I save it just shows the link, no music. Help?
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