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  Coquelicot

  Posts: 1 March 2011

  I use the tab, but I'm pretty sure it's just because it's there. Regardless, it's been useful for keeping track of plot items. I kind of like having them all in one place.
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  Duskreign

  Posts: 1,085 March 2011

  If I was to make a new campaign, I would take advantage of the Items tab, but in order to do so with Wyrmshadow or my Star Wars campaigns, I would have to do a lot of really tedious migration that wouldn't pay dividends in the long run. It is a great feature, but not for established campaign wikis that were already designed around its absence.
  
  I like the idea of using the items tab as a place to put things like tables, charts, and other such non-map information. That would really facilitate the use of the textile link generator when building new wiki pages.
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  JaceSummers

  Posts: 4 March 2011

  Ah, I hadn't considered that the tab was a feature added later in the development of the game. Thanks for the insight.
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  Black_Vulmea

  Posts: 277 March 2011

  Yup, I'm using it for "_Le Ballet de l'Acier_":http://www.obsidianportal.com/campaigns/le-ballet-de-l-acier. I've got "horses":http://www.obsidianportal.com/campaigns/le-ballet-de-l-acier/items?tag=horse, "armor":http://www.obsidianportal.com/campaigns/le-ballet-de-l-acier/items?tag=armor, "weapons":http://www.obsidianportal.com/campaigns/le-ballet-de-l-acier/items?tag=Weapon, and "ships":http://www.obsidianportal.com/campaigns/le-ballet-de-l-acier/items?tag=ship under my Items tab.
  
  It's a convenient place to collect all the homebrew equipment items or equipment house rules for the campaign; I'm pleased that it was added as a campaign-specific feature, rather than storing it under my profile.
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  super_rats

  Posts: 24 March 2011

  I use it for custom and plot-point items. Actually, I kind of wish there was one for locations, like instead of having a wiki page for The Walkwright Inn or Lord Fluffinstuff's Masion, treat the location like a character or an item.
  
  I think it is very useful to have separate lists for items, characters, locations instead of treating them all as wiki pages when it comes to organizing them in the pulldown list. The wiki page lists can get long enough as it is without cluttering them up with grains like items or very specific locations.
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  Black_Vulmea

  Posts: 277 March 2011

  bq. Actually, I kind of wish there was one for locations, like instead of having a wiki page for The Walkwright Inn or Lord Fluffinstuff's Masion, treat the location like a character or an item.
  
  The Character and Item pages work well because they make it easy to differentiate between game stats and descriptive text; in my games locations don't usually require a stat block, just description, and the open-format wiki pages give me more options for how I present the material.
  
  Tags also make it easy to group locations for skimming the way the Character and Item tabs do,
  
  bq. The wiki page lists can get long enough as it is without cluttering them up with grains like items or very specific locations.
  
  I was running into that problem at first as well, but then I started breaking pages down into smaller blocks of grouped links and this organization helped eliminate too lengthy lists of links and text.
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  anarkitty

  Posts: 2 March 2011

  I'm really likeing the tab. Previous campaigns I probably won't use it because migrating everything is a pain, as has been previously stated.
  My current campaign I have started using it from the beginning and I like it.
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  twiggyleaf

  Posts: 2,011 March 2011

  I have not used it as most of my campaign is already set up with items in DM Only sections. Like DR, I feel it would be too much work to start using it now. Will probably use it for a next campaign, but not sure how much. I may only use it for powerful items that the characters already know about. In my game I use cards for all magical items, so there is enough information at the table.

  "I met a traveller from an antique land....."

  CotM May 2016: Mysteria: set in Wolfgang Baur’s MIDGARD.

  Previous CotM Aug 2012: Shimring: High Level Multiplanar Campaign

  Inner Council Member
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  JaceSummers

  Posts: 4 March 2011

  I typically "fire and forget" when I give an item to a player. The stock ones I don't keep as close track of but the custom ones I like to archive both in my google docs and somewhere online and accessible mainly so I can be reminded that I have a player something with fire resist and I should put them in a position to take advantage of it.
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  VentureSix

  Posts: 30 March 2011 edited March 2011

  I'm finding it extremely useful for myself - I love having all sorts of player and plot data at my fingertips when we play! Hopefully my players find it useful as well, but it's fantastic for me!

  Post edited by VentureSix on March 2011
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  ketherian

  Posts: 203 March 2011 edited March 2011

  I've used it for a few things, but not regularly. Like others have mentioned, it's a good idea -- but remembering to use it is always a bit tricky.

  Post edited by ketherian on March 2011

  Ketherian
  Signs & Portends, Dwarves of Lost Koldukar, In a certain realm
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  igornappovich

  Posts: 76 March 2011

  I use it a lot. It works great. I especially recommend it for the specific purpose of individual character loot bags.
  
  Also, as an incentive to get players to use OP, the lootbag is good. DM wants a player to use OP? make them a loot bag item, and tell them you will be quantifying their treasure in there, so if they want to know how much loot they are holding, they better log into OP and check!
  
  I have had a lot of fun making items such as:
  
  Lucky Coin
  Set of Masks
  Circus Gear Kit
  Tabaroof the sheepdog/ mount
  
  etc
  When I come up with or find some new gear in game, I just add it to the appropriate item in OP (circus kit, lootbag, another mask for the set, etc)
  
  I still have a wiki description for some things, but things that change and that I may want to associate secrets with, are better left for the item tab. For example-- the DM knows that my character has an irrational faith in his lucky coin's predictive abilities, from reading the item details. But his fellow party members havent figured that out yet...
  
  It also provides a convenient location for a DM to get magic items/ rewards ideas. If they see some non magical user created items, that provides a good clue as to what sort of items that player is interested in.
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  Dungeon_Master_Loki

  Posts: 358 March 2011

  Love the loot bag idea, I may just have to steal it! Thanks!
  
  BTW, I love the items tab because I have a lot of ships in my game and that means I can things like this:
  
  http://www.obsidianportal.com/campaigns/spelljoined/items/hammership

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  igornappovich

  Posts: 76 March 2011

  NICE link loki... loving all those ships!!! People, check it out if you havent already taken a peek (unless you are no fun at all and dont like spelljammers)
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  Duskreign

  Posts: 1,085 March 2011

  Who in their right mind dislikes spelljammers? Sheesh!
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  paBroyles

  Posts: 4 February 2014

  Can anyone reccomend how to print an item without 2 pages of gibberish of headers, bullets of each tab (wiki, main page, items, map, etc); just want a clean print of the item image and crunch and bio?
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  PhoenixMark

  Posts: 90 February 2014

  I also have a plethora of items, and I even keep track of my player's items on their own pages. Some of them spend time on OP, but nobody ever edits pages. Still, I love making items for the team, especially cursed items.
  
  "PhoenixMark":http://www.obsidianportal.com/profile/PhoenixMark
  
  "CRIMSON SKIES":http://www.obsidianportal.com/campaigns/crimson-skies
  "COTM June 2012":http://blog.obsidianportal.com/crimson-skies-junes-campaign-of-the-month/
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  SkidAce

  Posts: 830 February 2014

  I love the items page. If they never support it and it stays their, I will continue to use it.
  
  If it goes away, I will use the character page for items, tagged appropriately.

  Unconquered Kingdoms, July 2016 CotM
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  GamingMegaverse

  Posts: 3,001 February 2014

  I use wikis for almost everything- and it works great!
  killervp
  "A God...Rebuilt":https://a-god-rebuilt.obsidianportal.com
  "OP's COTM April 2012":http://blog.obsidianportal.com/a-god-rebuilt-aprils-cotm/

  Just trying to help out.

  
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  WolfLord

  Posts: 278 February 2014

  Yeah i just use a wiki page called items haha. works just as well if not better.
  
  "Age of Heroes":https://heroes-of-hellas.obsidianportal.com/
  "Avatar: Conquest of the Imperial Order":https://avatar_adventures.obsidianportal.com/
  "COTM November 2011":http://blog.obsidianportal.com/november-11-campaign-of-the-month-avatar-conquest-of-the-imperial-order/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=november-11-campaign-of-the-month-avatar-conquest-of-the-imperial-order

  DM, Current Campaign: The Godlands: Rise of the Blood Moon Kings

  DM, Previous Campaign: Avatar: Conquest of the Imperial Order - CotM: November 2011
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  SkidAce

  Posts: 830 February 2014

  But you can't use the nifty new dynamic search box to narrow the items down with the wiki.
  
  Y'all are proabably right, I just really like the items page.

  Unconquered Kingdoms, July 2016 CotM
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  Maesenko

  Posts: 325 February 2014

  I would love for OP to carry over the Characters page code to the Items; even if they did nothing else, that would be plenty of support for me.
  
  _~Mae_
  "Whispers in Tamris":https://whispers-in-tamris.obsidianportal.com/

  ~Mae

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  Leonidas300

  Posts: 275 February 2014

  Wow...
  
  I just got to my items page and once again must express disgust (WTF developers?) The layout is again baffling - the picture of the item is way down at the bottom. My scroll background shifts the bio to the far left and the spacing between the fields as well as the text size and spacing sucks. I like the category selector but it is also spaced to closely to the other text.
  
  A) is there anyway to manually space or size these fields?
  
  I am not thinking so...
  
  Killervp - if it is ok with you I am just going to wholesale steal the way you do yours (always liked it)
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  twiggyleaf

  Posts: 2,011 February 2014

  My last comment within this thread was when I was still on Shimring.
  In my new campaign I so far have five items. As with the last campaign, I am only using it for important items and not listing every item. (Do people actually do that?) However, I have no problem with the layout. It all works well for me.
  
  twiggyleaf
  CURRENT CAMPAIGN: "Mysteria":http://www.obsidianportal.com/campaigns/mysteria - set in Wolfgang Baur’s MIDGARD.
  Previous CotM Aug 2012: "Shimring":http://www.obsidianportal.com/campaigns/shimring

  "I met a traveller from an antique land....."

  CotM May 2016: Mysteria: set in Wolfgang Baur’s MIDGARD.

  Previous CotM Aug 2012: Shimring: High Level Multiplanar Campaign

  Inner Council Member
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  SkidAce

  Posts: 830 February 2014

  Leonidas300, did you do the steal already? Cause it looks fine.
  
  
  Here is what mine looked like STANDARD, no CSS.
  
  "Items Page":https://unconquered-kingdoms.obsidianportal.com/items

  Unconquered Kingdoms, July 2016 CotM
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  Leonidas300

  Posts: 275 February 2014 edited February 2014

  @Skidace - The main item page looks fine - IMO better than it did before the reforge - it is once you open one of the items that the terrible formatting becomes evident.
  
  I know part of it is my width settings but my campaign makes extensive use of HTML tables and getting the MF'ing settings right on those have been neigh upon impossible. I also know my scroll background messes with things. I stole Maratise's horizontal nav bar which has helped on some fronts but ultimately I think a wiki formatted item page (maybe using Kallak's character page layout code) will prove much better.
  
  
  "Leonidas300":http://www.obsidianportal.com/campaign/metzger/wikis/leonidas300
  "A Manifestation of Chaos":http://www.obsidianportal.com/campaign/metzger/wikis/main-page
  COTM - Sept. 2012

  Post edited by Leonidas300 on February 2014
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  SkidAce

  Posts: 830 February 2014

  Copy that.

  Unconquered Kingdoms, July 2016 CotM