I would like to see the customization of of site look and feel and menu customizations made simpler. There is a lot of great info on the forums but doing this is sort of hit or miss and was not easy. Yop had to weigh the time of the post verse where we are now...some of the help was out of date. I actually did it and then removed it since I felt it may break in the future. You can keep the CSS option for people that want to spend time doing that to get really cool looking sites but it would be great if there were a simple way for those of us that do not.
So the ability to rename menu options via a UI
The ability to select menu option image via a ui
The ability to set up page templates so you do not have to format everything on every page.
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I'm behind page templates 10000%!
- Kallak
Haha! @Kallak has been championing "page templates" internally. Actually, he's been championing the ability to rename and/or add new sidebar "tabs" internally too, which sounds like what's being asked for here with "ability to rename menu options". @CraigSteinhoff, please correct me if I'm misunderstanding.
Can you give an example of what you mean by "page templates"? I want to make sure we're all on the same page.
Community members, chime in if either or both of these features are interesting to you.
Obsidian Portal Developer
First off I am pretty new to the platform, about a year and I only have done two campaigns. So I can tell you my thoughts and there may be better ways to do this but I was unable to figure it out. But here is what I have
Well I think of templates as few different things.
Here is example of setting heading in one of my games...I wanted the h4 heading to be a specific font and always have a specific image (a sheriffs start) to do this I need to first figure out I needed to update the CSS for heading 4 in the custom CSS box, and then every time I create a heading 4 I had to insert this text
<h4>[[File:992734 | class=media-item-align-none | Sherrifs_Star.png]] The World as we know it</h4>
I hope this helps....
That all makes sense. Thanks for the examples. That's really helpful to pin down exactly what you are asking for!
We currently have two different editors...the Textile editor (which is the default) and another that's more "what you see is what you get" called CkEditor. You can change this in the Campaign settings. CkEditor is not the greatest, which is why it's not the default, but it can make it easier to change fonts and such. Similar to this forum editor I'm typing in now. So you might try the CkEditor to see if it makes it easier to format things. Though I would try it in a test campaign because it can cause issues to switch back and forth between CkEditor and Textile.
If other Ascendants are wanting templates, I could see us adding them. I'm a little cautious about it though for two reasons.
First, I don't want to overly complicate the UI because it can discourage new Ascendants. So this might be something an Ascendant GM would have to turn on in the Advanced settings before it was available in the Campaign.
And second, I have a suspicion that the normal casual Player doesn't care too much about the extra design elements, and, after some of the general stuff like choosing a background and colors, they would rather the GM spend more time on the story than on the design of the Campaign. I could be wrong on that, and feel free to push back, but anecdotally it's come up a few times.
Feel free to comment on any of that.
Obsidian Portal Developer
Sure I can understand that, but I think the wiki organization makes it really hard when you have lots of content, I am hoping the templates will make it easier to keep things organized. I spend a lot of time trying to get things orgaqnized and spend alot of time keeping updated. At least that was my hope...
Thank you for following up! I really appreciate you mentioning that "the wiki organization makes it really hard when you have lots of content."
It helps to hear/see specific examples of things that are causing problems, so we can make sure we're fixing the core problem. Can you share an example of a page you would want to use a template on and how you would expect the template to improve the organization of the page? And how that would take less time to keep it updated?
Obsidian Portal Developer