Player's Journal

Conan_Lybarian
Conan_Lybarian

Talking to one of my players, they brought up an idea specifically for themselves and my group. I, as the GM/Ascendant manner, have access to all secrets, adventure logs, forum posts, etc.. What she wants is the option for her personal journal/to keep her notes online and to be able to have them right there and convenient when we play (online), that only she can see. I personally think it would be an awesome feature- and maybe a way to get the players *themselves* a little more active on the portal and OP in general.

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  • Abersade
    Abersade
    Posts: 187

    Does the Player Secret section on their character sheet not fit the bill because the GM can still see it?

  • Conan_Lybarian
    Conan_Lybarian
    Posts: 166

    @Abersade -Correct on that. Plus- it's the idea of having a feature just for her. I suppose it could have a "player only" viewing option to make it visible to the GM if she chooses? But I bet some people would put out a buck or 2 for something like that. Hell, it cost money for pen and paper- why not the equivalent, but online. Maybe an extra add on to the GM Ascendant, or some sort of Player level or something. 

  • Abersade
    Abersade
    Posts: 187

    I like the idea. Maybe a way to implement it would be to just change the default behavior for the Player Secret section to allow the secret to be viewable only by the player that created it by default instead of the player and always the GM? I would think that this would be a very easy change on the backend but given the way things were put together after the Reforge who knows (other than the Devs and likely Kallak anyways).

    I get the impression from the way the classes were named and the way certain features were implemented initially that the idea behind it was to have the GM doing pretty much everything and gatekeeping that information. Which is basically the exact way every campaign on the site actually ends up working, whether we as the GMs want it to or not usually. XD

  • JaymesBolton
    JaymesBolton
    Posts: 276

    I would love to see this. As an additional option or alternative allow completely secret forum discussions that allow the creator to choose who can and can not see the discussion. 

  • killervp
    killervp
    Posts: 2,778

    I really like both the original suggestion, but even more @jaymesbolton suggestion of a secret forum not necessarily run by the gm- my players used discord separately for just this purpose.

    Just trying to help out.

  • Conan_Lybarian
    Conan_Lybarian
    Posts: 166

    Yeah, that's the thing @killervp. I really want features that keep my player on OP. I think a lot of people use these outside services for that stuff. But the more I can keep them on OP, the better.

  • killervp
    killervp
    Posts: 2,778

    Agreed- great idea!

    Just trying to help out.

  • thaen
    thaen
    Posts: 41

    @Conan_Lybarian, @Abersade, @JaymesBolton, @killervp

    I'm not promising anything, but IF a beta version of "players can create secrets on pages that the GM can't see" feature was developed, which of you would be interested in being a beta user of the feature?

    It increases the likelihood that we will work on a feature if we already have users that have agreed to use it and test it.

    The initial version would likely be to change the "Player Secrets" to be "Secret Notes", and let any Campaign Member create them, and also have the GM be "uncheckable" as one of the Campaign Members that can see the "Secret Note".  Only the author would be able to Edit the "Secret Note".

    If that version of the feature saw use, then we would be able to put time into working on a "My Secret Notes" tab that listed links to all of the pages where a Campaign Member had a "Secret Note" they could view.  This could actually then be used as a "sticky notes" feature by the GM (requested in a different thread) by creating a "Secret Note" on a page just for the GM, which would then show up in the "My Secret Notes" tab.  For the GM this "My Secret Notes" tab could also include "GM Only" pages.  And for any Campaign Member, it could also include Private Forum Threads (also discussed above, but there is a separate forum thread for that linked below).

    Feel free to say if that "initial version" is not enough to get you to use it, so we can get specific about what is needed to fulfill this request.  Though the bigger a feature has to be to be used, the more risky it is for us to put work into because it might end up not being used and have been a waste of time.  So the bigger a feature is the less likely we'll work on it...or rather the more interest we need from the users before we'll work on it.

    Again, I'm not promising anything, just looking to gauge real interest here.  I don't like to say something is going to happen until it's actually live because I wouldn't want anyone to think they were getting something and then be disappointed.

    If you're also interested in the Private Forum Threads feature, post in this thread that you'd be interested in being a beta user of that (again, IF we did it):

    https://forums.obsidianportal.com/discussion/3763/private-campaign-forums

    Thanks,

    thaen/Aleks

     

  • Krothos
    Krothos
    Posts: 202

    I'm on the fence about whether I would use this feature. However, I would be willing to beta test this feature for you with my new campaign starting this week. I would need a couple of weeks to get the campaign off the ground and moving forward before I could dedicate cycles to test this new feature.

     

  • thaen
    thaen
    Posts: 41

    @Krothos, the feature doesn't exist yet.  I'm just trying to gauge if there is even enough interest for us to work on it.  But I will let you know if we do have something to test.  Actually, in this feature's case, for the initial version, it would be more your Players that would be testing it because you already have access to "Player Secrets".  The Players would be the ones that would have the new ability to create Secret Notes that you (the GM) couldn't see.

  • killervp
    killervp
    Posts: 2,778

    I would beta it with my group

     

    Just trying to help out.

  • thaen
    thaen
    Posts: 41

    @killervp, excellent!  I'll get back to you if we go forward with it.

  • Conan_Lybarian
    Conan_Lybarian
    Posts: 166

    @thaen I'm down to try any new feature!

  • thaen
    thaen
    Posts: 41

    @Conan_Lybarian, excellent!  Noted!

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